Buying Information

Buying a Used Boat?

Whether you're going to sail the open ocean, fish your favourite coves or chart a course to your dream retirement buying a boat is the adventure of a lifetime. You can find many exceptional values in used boats they can be affordable, seaworthy, well-built and well maintained. To make sure you get years of pleasure and adventure out of your used boat, buy smart.

The following link to the Boating Industry Association web site will assist you in making your decision. Remember to come back to our site.  www.bia.org.au/choosing.html

Buy a used boat through a licensed yacht and shipbroker.

They're experienced. Plus, they're professionals who specialize in this business. They also have instant access to Statewide, National and even International networks of boat owners and brokers with boats to sell.

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Choosing The Right Boat

Where to start

Contact licensed yacht and ship brokers. They specialize in helping you find the right used boat for you, and their extensive networks of listings and brokers can provide you with the most complete choice of boats.

An Offer to Purchase

After you decide on the boat you want to buy, your broker prepares an Offer to Purchase for your signature. You also make a good faith deposit on the boat, usually 10 percent of the purchase price. Your deposit goes into a bank trust fund that a licensed broker administers.

You control the deposit

By law, your money can't be spent without your written authorization, and your Offer to Purchase should always depend on your satisfaction of a Sea Trial and Survey. See below for more details.

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Boat Loans and Marine Insurance

Securing a loan is fairly simple if you have a good credit history and can make a down payment, usually 20 percent of the boat's total delivered price.

You may want to pre-qualify for a boat loan before you shop. That will give you some extra leverage and breathing room when you're negotiating prices.

Financing your Boat

SOME COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT BOAT FINANCING, with the compliments of FINLEASE (AUSTRALIA) PTY LIMITED  -  www.finlease.com.au

Q. Can I finance up to 100% of the boat price?

A. Yes, the majority of New & Used boats are 100% financed, however the buyer can elect to pay any level of deposit they desire.

Q. Do I need to provide any other security in addition to the boat for the loan?

A. No, usually the boat is the only security.

Q. Would I qualify for a boat loan?

1. You need to show that you can make the finance payments from your annual income.

2. If you require 100% finance, you will need to show that you have some "tangible" net worth such as equity in Real Estate or investments. The Finance Companies will NOT want a mortgage, they simply want to feel comfortable that you have the ability to make good any shortfall between the second-hand value of the boat and the amount that they initially financed.

3. You have a good "credit history".

4. You have been in stable, continuous employment.

Q. How many years can I have the loan for?

A. Usually up to 5 years, however if required a Residual of up to 40% can be structured into the loan in order to keep payments lower. This Residual can be re-financed for a further period of up to 5 years at the end of the initial term.

Q. Can I finance a USED BOAT?

A. Absolutely, at least 50% of all boats financed are used. Typically, the boat would need to be no older than 15 years for this finance, however there are always exceptions. We have financed a 1953 Halvorsen Bridgedeck Cruiser where the borrower was strong enough.

Q. How much does it cost?

A. Your costs depend on several factors, such as:

1.  How much boating experience you have

2.  Whether you have previous insurance claims

3.  What kind of navigational equipment your boat has

4.  Where you will use your boat

5.  The boat's value

Expect to pay more for insurance if you're going to own a high performance boat or a wooden boat.

www.clubmarine.com.au

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Getting a Sea Trial and Survey

The seller has accepted your offer on a boat. You've lined up your financing. Now it's time for a sea trial to see how this boat handles and performs in the water. The seller usually provides the sea trial. Your broker will usually go with you on the sea trial to answer your questions.

A survey is your opportunity to find out any problems, see if everything works properly and determine the boat's condition. Buyers pay for the surveys and for hauling the boat out of the water for inspection.

If an unforeseen problem shows up during the survey, you might be able to negotiate it into the final price.

Use a marine surveyor

Who can survey my boat & what qualifications do you look for? Until recently there hasn't been any specific qualifications required for marine surveyors. TAFE now teaches a certificate level 4 qualification in marine surveying for qualified shipwrights, which is endorsed by the B.I.A. It is important that marine surveyors are experienced in many facets of boat construction and repair on a professional level. It is this experience that will give them a well-rounded understanding of maintenance, repairs, defects and their implications. Purchasers can be scared off good boats due to overly negative reports done by surveyors who do not have this experience. It is also important that the surveyor has operational experience in vessels relevant to what they are surveying.

Why do you need a survey when purchasing a vessel? Many purchasers say, "I wish I had my boat professionally surveyed before I bought it". Today's professional surveyor is regularly studying to keep up with this fast moving industry both in construction and repair techniques. This knowledge will help you to investigate a suitable and safe vessel for your boating pleasure. It is important that you read and understand your survey report thoroughly. If anything is not clear ask your surveyor for more information. A survey report is primarily to establish what faults are associated with the vessel and how they affect it's structural integrity & safe running and that the boat does not have major undetected problems which may risk your safety, cost a lot of money to be rectified or even devalue the resale of your vessel. Many insurance companies require that a vessel be surveyed before they will insure it. Your pre-purchase survey report will be suitable for this purpose if it has the right information for the insurance company.

How do I find a surveyor?

I. The Sydney Region Boating Directory.

2. Trade a Boat monthly magazine.

3. The Boating Industry Association.

4. Boat brokers will have a list of surveyors.

5. Yellow pages.

What are the costs? A normal pre-sale inspection with a written report will cost around $15 to $18 dollars per linear foot, calculated on the over all hull length of the vessel. This may vary, depending on the construction method. There may be additional travelling charges if the vessel is some distance away. Inspecting the vessel out of the water is essential for a thorough survey and the purchaser pays for these slipping fees in addition to the cost of the survey. The broker can usually assist you to arrange for your slipping.

Most marine surveyors do a visual overview of the mechanical systems of a vessel but can also arrange a marine mechanic or engineer to perform more thorough tests and reports, at extra cost. Typically, these reports could include engine oil analysis, motor diagnostics and cylinder compression testing. It may also be necessary to do ultra sound testing on steel vessels.

Common Concerns

1. How serious is osmosis blistering? Osmosis requires proper diagnosis. Small isolated blisters close to the surface are easily repaired. You can easily treat them as part of your annual maintenance program. Large and deep blisters need to be ground out and possibly re-fibreglassed. The anti-fouling surface, the gelcoat and tie layer may need to be removed if the problem is too extensive. The vessel's skin then needs to be dried out and re-coated with the appropriate systems. This treatment can be expensive and time consuming.

2. Are gelcoat cracks serious? The gelcoat surface of a fibreglass boat will crack under force long before the fibreglass skin will be damaged. These cracks will however form indicators of where stresses have been applied and show where to look for more serious damage. It is important that moisture does not penetrate these cracks and damage the fibreglass layer.

3. How often will I need to anti-foul my boat? Antifouling is generally replaced on an annual basis. This varies depending on where the vessel is moored and the quality of the antifouling used. The new layer can be painted over the existing layer if the surface is properly cleaned and prepared. It is important that the new antifouling is compatible with the old. Anti fouling builds up and tends to flake off after several years of application. At this point, the old layers need to be removed and new coatings of antifouling reapplied. In the interests of your own safety, this work should be professionally done.

A GOOD SURVEYOR WILL HELP YOU CHOOSE THE RIGHT BOAT

Always use an independent surveyor, and always survey the boat in and out of the water. Marine surveyors inspect the boat in your interest and the interests of your lender and insurance company. Often your lender will designate a marine surveyor, and brokers have lists of marine surveyors approved by lenders and marine insurance companies.

You should also ask an independent marine mechanic to inspect the engine.

Be there at the boat survey.

We recommend that you attend the survey to learn first hand what condition the boat is in. It's the best time to ask the surveyor questions.

What to do with your sea trial and survey results.

One big reason for the survey is to find out the current condition and market value of the boat you want to buy.

If the results reveal flaws and problems, the sea trial and survey may give you the opportunity to back out of a contract without penalty, or to negotiate repairs on the boat.

But be advised: If you're buying a boat at a rock bottom price, or if the seller is in distress and is selling for below his market price, the sea trial and survey will not give you leverage to negotiate. The seller might not have funds for repairs and is selling as is, where is. The seller may insist that you pay any repair costs.

Your broker usually gives copies of the survey report to your lender and insurance carrier for their review. They'll want to know the boat's condition, its replacement value and the surveyor's determination of the boat's market value.

Keep in mind though, surveys are no guarantee against hidden or undetected defects.

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Sales Agreements and Contracts

The cardinal rule is get it in writing. Your broker will outline the terms of the sale in writing to protect your interests. That includes spelling out obligations that you and the seller have agreed to, and when these obligations will be fulfilled. It's a legally binding contract of each party's intentions.

What your sales agreement and contract should contain.

   A description of the boat and engine (if it's outboard powered), including the make, model, year, Hull Identification Number (HIN) and (outboard) engine serial numbers. You can get the equipment list from the survey and the written specification sheet from your broker. This should include:

   The purchase price, including any deposits you have paid and how you will pay the balance by cashier's check, for example.

   Details about when and where the boat will be delivered and the sale finalized.

   Language specifying that the sale depends on a satisfactory survey and sea trial and your ability to get acceptable financing and marine insurance.

   A statement confirming the boat is free of liens and encumbrances that might block the sale the seller should also take responsibility for debts incurred during the seller's ownership.

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REVS Check

How Do You Know If The Boat is Unencumbered?

Buy a second hand boat that has money owing on it & you could end up with the vessel being repossessed - & you won�t get your money back. It�s the law.

A REVS check is a free service provided by the NSW Department of Fair Trading which can tell you over the phone, if the boat you�re thinking of buying is carrying a debt & could be repossessed.

This is what you�ll need. From the boat, get the registration number, hull identification number (HIN) also known as Boat Code and the engine number(s). You can usually find the HIN on the transom or on the stern. If you have problems finding these numbers on the boat, just ask your dealer.

Before you call for your REVS CHECK, make sure all the numbers you have obtained match the ones on the registration papers.

If REVS gives the vessel the okay, ask for a search certificate which can legally protect you against repossession by a financier due to a previous owner�s unpaid debt.

A Search Certificate costs only $10 & protects you, provided you purchase the boat by midnight of the following day. However, the general information is free.

A REVS CHECK can also tell you if the boat has been reported stolen.

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Who pays the broker?

The seller pays the commissions that a licensed yacht and ship broker earns not the buyer. But that doesn't mean a broker works exclusively for the seller.

Brokers have a legal duty to buyer and seller alike in every transaction. Brokers work as trustees. They must work justly and in good conscience in the interests of both parties. They're duty bound to act in good faith, and they must make full and complete disclosure.

One thing brokers can't do is guarantee the condition of the boats they're brokering. That's another important reason to get a sea trial and survey.

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What it Really Costs to Own a Boat

So you know the boat's price tag and how much it'll cost to finance. But do you really know how much your boat will cost you? Let's add it up.

Prepare for other costs.

Be sure you budget for the less obvious costs, such as:

1.   Recurring fees such as mooring fees.

2.   Slip rental fees.

3.   Maintenance.

4.   Insurance

Ask your licensed yacht and ship broker to help you plan for these costs.

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Be Safe

Know how to boat safely. Waterways provides free boating safety information and a Safe Boating Course booklet.

www.waterways.nsw.gov.au

You should also consider taking private lessons aboard your boat.

Q.  What kinds of boating safety classes are available?

A.  You can take courses in:

   Skills and seamanship for powerboats

   Sailing and seamanship for sailors

   Basic coastal navigation

   Advanced coastal piloting

   Advanced coastal navigation

   Basic piloting and seamanship

   Navigation rules

   Safe boat handling

   Rules of the road

   Navigation aids, compass and chart use.  And more.

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Now You Own a Boat, What next?

Transferring title

If there's already a loan on the boat, your broker will handle paying it off for you after your funds have gone into your broker's trust account. In some cases the new lender will transfer the title.

Q.   Where do you put your boat?

A.   Ask your broker for help locating a suitable marina to berth your boat.

You can also apply for a Waterways mooring.

www.waterways.nsw.gov.au

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